[worldKit-dev] AS3 / Flex Version?

[Ian Mayo]

There would be one plus point (I think) to OpenLaszlo: we would
effectively be supporting new & old Flash at close-to-zero additional
cost.  We would then have worldKit components that could be directly
integrated into other applications using Flash or Flex.

Just to double-check though, will worldKit still be able to be
deployed just on the client?  (without an application server).

Ian


On 17/08/07, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OpenLaszlo is cool -- those guys really pioneered the idea that Adove picked up on and made into Flex.
>
> worldKit could be packaged as a compiled component for use in OpenLaszlo. Don't think it that would have any affect of AS2 vs AS3 though.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jon Blower <jdb at mail.nerc-essc.ac.uk>
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development <worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:05:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] AS3 / Flex Version?
>
> Just a comment, but have you considered OpenLaszlo
> (http://www.openlaszlo.org/)?  I'm not an expert but I've played with
> it a little and it seems pretty good.  It's similar to Flex but open
> source.  The same source code can be compiled to multiple runtimes
> including Flash7,8,9 and DHTML.
>
> Cheers, Jon
>
> On 8/17/07, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have two concerns. First, the penetration of FP 9 (required to run AS 3.0) is slightly lower (10-15%) than FP 8. I suppose this isn't such a big deal, since upgrading is so easy .. but I'd want the worldKit download to be packaged with SWFObject (http://osflash.org/flashobject) so that requiring FP 9 is easier/cleaner.
> >
> > More of a concern is the lack of an AS 3.0 open source compiler. It's been a long time intention to remove any dependencies on the commercial Flash IDE, and provide tools to do a pure OS compile of Flash -- not out of idealism, but simply to make development of worldKit more accessible/free and because the open source tools are more developer oriented. More "developer oriented" also means harder to get started, and I haven't yet worked out that entire pathway (you can see the progress so far in trac). MTASC, the top OS flash compiler, will not do AS 3.
> >
> > On the plus side, AS3 and FP9 have significantly better performance, some neat new features, a stronger language and do give access to all the Flex developers. I honestly haven't been watching too closely the development of Flex, so can't say have much of a benefit to worldKit that could be -- would be nice to know if there's demand and what specific benefits Ian and Bill see from Flex. There's no dependence on anything 3rd party (zoomify dependency was removed).
> >
> > We should also consider that there's a large number of bugs and features, and how should AS 3 balance against those?
> >
> > I see our options as sticking with AS 2.0, going completely to 3.0, or third option (maybe more painful?) to maintain two branches of worldKit for 2.0 and 3.0.
> >
> > Mikel
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ian Mayo <IanMayo at freenet.co.uk>
> > To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:49:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] AS3 / Flex Version?
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > a few weeks ago Bill Thorp polled for interest in porting worldKit to
> > Flex/ActionScript 3.0 (copied below).  "Updating" the software in this
> > way matches my aspirations for furture use of worldKit.
> >
> > Bill: did you have any positive feedback off-list?
> > All (esp Mikel):  I'm interested in any opinions regarding the pros
> > and cons of this upgrade.
> >
> > - Do members of the community look forward to adoption of Flex?
> > - Are there any features/3rd party libs that couldn't be ported?  (zoomify?)
> > - Would in ease/complicate worldKit maintenance/adoption?
> >
> > cheers,
> > Ian.
> >
> >
> > > Hello!
> > > I was curious if anyone has tried to or successfully ported WorldKit to Flex
> > > or ActionScript 3.  If not, I was interested if anyone would like to help port it
> > > to Flash 9 / AS3 with me.
> > > - Bill Thorp
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