From marko_f at gmx.de Thu Jun 1 09:00:46 2006
From: marko_f at gmx.de (Marko Faber)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:00:46 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
Message-ID: <20060601160046.319510@gmx.net>
hi,
is it possible to specify a target window in the rss.xml file.
my file looks like:
Marburg
/index.php/regionalgruppen/marburg
Regionalgruppe Marburg
50.81666678.7666667Main
I would prefer the targets to be opened in the window where the map is. so i search for sth. like "target=_self"
thx
marko
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From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
In-Reply-To: <020601c684b6$19bf0060$5443a8c0@GIS05>
Message-ID: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Giorgio
Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing is so easy, and RSS generation is built in.
WordPress and the GeoPress plugin [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html] is one nice system.
Mikel
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From: Giorgio Plazzotta
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
generate and update the RSS files.
At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is the
elements in the map changes very often?
In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
own software to do that?
Giorgio
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 14:02:36 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
In-Reply-To: <20060601160046.319510@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20060601210236.28105.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
You can specify this in the config.xml, with
_self
-Mikel
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Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2006 9:00:46 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
hi,
is it possible to specify a target window in the rss.xml file.
my file looks like:
Marburg
/index.php/regionalgruppen/marburg
Regionalgruppe Marburg
50.81666678.7666667Main
I would prefer the targets to be opened in the window where the map is. so i search for sth. like "target=_self"
thx
marko
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From god1 at gmx.net Fri Jun 2 06:14:20 2006
From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:14:20 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
In-Reply-To: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060602131420.211490@gmx.net>
You could also try the worldkit geowiki from worldkit.org . I'm working on a newer version, you can see the current state at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard (general version) or at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki (some data for Bangalore, combined with pmwiki). There are still some bugs, most importantly it doesn't work with Internet Explorer (with Firefox/Mozilla at least for Ubuntu Linux it works fine). If you have any idea why, or find other problems, please tell me.
If you use any of the geowiki versions to create your data, be aware that there are some constraints when editing rss.xml by hand.
See you,
Markus
>?-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>?Datum: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
>?Von: Mikel Maron
>?An: Discussion of worldKit use and development
>?Betreff: Re: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>?
> Hi Giorgio
>
> Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing
> is so easy, and? RSS generation is built in.
>
> WordPress and the GeoPress plugin
> [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html]
> is one nice system.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Giorgio Plazzotta
> To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>
> I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
> generate and update the RSS files.
> At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
> In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is
> the
> elements in the map changes very often?
> In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
> I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
> Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
> own software to do that?
>
> Giorgio
>
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From god1 at gmx.net Fri Jun 2 06:14:20 2006
From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:14:20 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
In-Reply-To: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060602131420.211490@gmx.net>
You could also try the worldkit geowiki from worldkit.org . I'm working on a newer version, you can see the current state at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard (general version) or at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki (some data for Bangalore, combined with pmwiki). There are still some bugs, most importantly it doesn't work with Internet Explorer (with Firefox/Mozilla at least for Ubuntu Linux it works fine). If you have any idea why, or find other problems, please tell me.
If you use any of the geowiki versions to create your data, be aware that there are some constraints when editing rss.xml by hand.
See you,
Markus
>?-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>?Datum: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
>?Von: Mikel Maron
>?An: Discussion of worldKit use and development
>?Betreff: Re: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>?
> Hi Giorgio
>
> Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing
> is so easy, and? RSS generation is built in.
>
> WordPress and the GeoPress plugin
> [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html]
> is one nice system.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Giorgio Plazzotta
> To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>
> I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
> generate and update the RSS files.
> At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
> In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is
> the
> elements in the map changes very often?
> In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
> I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
> Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
> own software to do that?
>
> Giorgio
>
> _______________________________________________
> worldkit-dev mailing list
> worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> http://lists.brainoff.com/listinfo.cgi/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com
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From oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com Fri Jun 9 07:30:46 2006
From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:30:46 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Example sites seem to hint at only simple
functionality
Message-ID:
Heya,
Just been having a quick look at Worldkit for use in conjunction with Plone
as Travel Photo blog. I have been checking out the various example sites to
get a handle on the type of functionality that it offers.
It seems from the many examples on the Worldkit website that its not
possible to display the photos on the same page as the map without browser
refresh. Is this really the case?
Can anyone direct me to a website which makes full use of the fetaures
available in Worldkit in particular the use of GIS-like layers?
Thanks again
Olly
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 08:23:09 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:23:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Example sites seem to hint at only simple
functionality
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060609152309.8313.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Oliver
> It seems from the many examples on the Worldkit website that its not
> possible to display the photos on the same page as the map without browser
> refresh. Is this really the case?
Certainly is possible, to display images directly in worldKit..
http://worldkit.org/doc/rss.php#thumb
.. or in DOM elements loaded by Javascript
http://worldkit.org/doc/javascript.php#from
> Can anyone direct me to a website which makes full use of the fetaures
> available in Worldkit in particular the use of GIS-like layers?
Hidden Ecologies is a good example of layers...
http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/database/map/Hidden_Ecologies/herons_head/herons_head_map.asp
http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/database/map/Hidden_Ecologies/south_bay/south_bay_map.asp
Cheers,
Mikel
From matt at wildcolour.com Fri Jun 9 20:13:53 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:13:53 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
Message-ID:
one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94 system
(as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't
understand why there are different systems, but hay.
I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I
am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
Here is a url with a sample image
http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx
maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is
protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
Any ideas???
thanks
Matt :)
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From oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com Sat Jun 10 07:10:54 2006
From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:10:54 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
Message-ID:
Hi List,
I am interrested in using the 'timeline' element in my map and have added
the following formatted date to all in rss.xml:
01 May 95
In addition i have added the following to config.xml:
true01 Jun 7801 Jun 06
But there seems to be a problem with my date format! I don't want to include
'the time' but the points don't dsiplay in order of date at the moment. I
have tried using the help at:
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc822.html#sec-5
but i find it very confusing so can anyone help clarify what i need to do
differently?
Thanks in advance
Olly
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From oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com Sat Jun 10 13:04:16 2006
From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:04:16 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Scale dependent layers
Message-ID:
Heya,
Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
..and where possible please provide examples!
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From matt at wildcolour.com Sat Jun 10 14:33:23 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:33:23 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in
subject
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Hi Olly
you can set when a layer becomes visiable in your config file with the
and this works with WMS layers, raster images, and I
assume vectors (I have not tried using vectors).
you will find more detail here
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/config.php#zoom
it is worth spending the time to ready throught he whole documentation,
there are some real gems in this application.
As for and example, there is on in the documentation as well
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/layers.php#layer
happy zooming in
Matt :)
On 6/11/06, Oliver Ishmael wrote:
>
> Heya,
>
> Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
> possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
>
> Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
> visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
>
> ..and where possible please provide examples!
>
>
> Cheers all :D
>
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From god1 at gmx.net Wed Jun 14 04:46:32 2006
From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:46:32 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] new version of geowiki
Message-ID: <20060614114632.108730@gmx.net>
Hi,
It seems that the new geowiki is working now on Internet Explorer as well. It allows to add and edit items (points, lines and polygons) directly on the map, track and undo changes in a history, and link the map items either with a normal wiki or with individual urls. Map and linked pages are displayed in the same browser window.
You can see two versions online, the standard one (http://ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard) and one linked to pmwiki (http://ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki). The sources are at http://ctrlw.net/geowiki.tar.gz (@Mikel: can you host it on worldkit.org as well, if you don't mind? Maybe additionally to your older version, since that may still be useful).
Compared to the original geowiki, you cannot display images for individual items on the map, since worldkit does not send this information to the browser, and the map is smaller now to display forms and linked sites on the same page. And the code got larger and more complex ;-)
I'm happy about any feedback, especially from Windows users, since I could hardly test it with IE (it should work as well, but the behaviour is slightly different). See you,
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 06:19:09 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:19:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in
subject
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060614131909.74616.qmail@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Yes, check out , it has attributes to control the visibility at different scales. I'm curious to hear how it goes.
mapserver, eh? -- would be interested to pursue tighter integration of worldKit with mapserver..
----- Original Message ----
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To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:33:23 PM
Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in subject
Hi Olly
you can set when a layer becomes visiable in your config file with the and this works with WMS layers, raster images, and I assume vectors (I have not tried using vectors).
you will find more detail here
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/config.php#zoom
it is worth spending the time to ready throught he whole documentation, there are some real gems in this application.
As for and example, there is on in the documentation as well
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/layers.php#layer
happy zooming in
Matt :)
On 6/11/06, Oliver Ishmael wrote: Heya,
Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
..and where possible please provide examples!
Cheers all :D
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From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:23:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
In-Reply-To:
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Hi Olly
Details on the date format supported in worldKit is on http://www.worldkit.org/doc/time.php
These are the formats supported in various RSS flavors.
So yes, at the moment, you do need to include the time. What we need to do is change the format in time display box to be configurable.
Mikel
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From: Oliver Ishmael
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:10:54 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
Hi List,
I am interrested in using the 'timeline' element in my map and have added
the following formatted date to all in rss.xml:
01 May 95
In addition i have added the following to config.xml:
true01 Jun 7801 Jun 06
But there seems to be a problem with my date format! I don't want to include
'the time' but the points don't dsiplay in order of date at the moment. I
have tried using the help at:
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc822.html#sec-5
but i find it very confusing so can anyone help clarify what i need to do
differently?
Thanks in advance
Olly
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 06:43:39 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:43:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
In-Reply-To:
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Hey Matt
GDA94 [Geocentric Datum of Australia 1994 (GDA94)] is a UTM projection .. chosen since it will produce less distorted images over Australia than unprojected lat/long imagery.
I am not aware of an easy way either, but am aware of A way. http://brainoff.com/weblog/2006/06/02/1157 describes a bit of what we did to reproject imagery of Indonesia into unprojected lat/long. It may have enough pointers to get going. You will have to have a "world file" for this image prepared.
Let me know how it goes, we can hash it out.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2006 8:13:53 PM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94 system (as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't understand why there are different systems, but hay.
I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
Here is a url with a sample image
http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
Any ideas???
thanks
Matt :)
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From matt at wildcolour.com Wed Jun 14 21:32:25 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:32:25 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
Message-ID:
Thanks Mikel
OK my head is about to explode - I have not done this much math since ....
well, every really.
I found an article on redearn formula that is used to convert between GDA9A
Northing and easting to LAT and LONGS. I then wrote and and PHP file to
convert "BBOX=" values to northings and eastings to request the correct
file. And it seems to work well. (there is a problem with zooming west of
King island - as the server does not seem to allow request outside of zone
55 - so don't go west of king Island.
The script outputs a KML file for google earth to create an overlay - seems
to work well. But for this to work with world kit I think I need to pass an
image not a xml file with the location of the image. So next step is to
pull out the PHP book again and learn how to pass and image file - unless
you have a better idea. (I would rather not have to load the image into the
server and then send it again - this would be very slow)
The script still have a little bit of tweeking you may notice the top of the
map is stretched out a bit.
I have attached the KML file to play with -- remember to zoom right into
Tasmania Australia (that is under downunder)
Matt :)
On 6/14/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> Hey Matt
>
> GDA94 [Geocentric Datum of Australia 1994 (GDA94)] is a UTM projection
> .. chosen since it will produce less distorted images over Australia than
> unprojected lat/long imagery.
>
> I am not aware of an easy way either, but am aware of A way.
> http://brainoff.com/weblog/2006/06/02/1157 describes a bit of what we did
> to reproject imagery of Indonesia into unprojected lat/long. It may have
> enough pointers to get going. You will have to have a "world file" for this
> image prepared.
>
> Let me know how it goes, we can hash it out.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt McClelland
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2006 8:13:53 PM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
>
> one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94
> system (as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't
> understand why there are different systems, but hay.
>
> I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I
> am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
>
> Here is a url with a sample image
>
>
> http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
>
> you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx
> maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is
> protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
>
> Any ideas???
>
> thanks
>
> Matt :)
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From matt at wildcolour.com Tue Jun 20 00:41:54 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:41:54 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
Message-ID:
Hi All
I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in
sections (ie first half second half)
It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track is
in the world as defined by etc.
Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with
accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using
etc boundries.
(big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
so this works
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
=
But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of the
first point) then the line goes by by :(
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in view??
Matt :)
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 11:16:05 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:16:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060621181605.37850.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Matt,
This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
Hi All
I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in sections (ie first half second half)
It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track is in the world as defined by etc.
Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using etc boundries.
(big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
so this works
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc =
But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of the first point) then the line goes by by :(
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in view??
Matt :)
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From list at heijdendael.nl Wed Jun 21 14:43:24 2006
From: list at heijdendael.nl ([list] Riny)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:43:24 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] New to the list and question
In-Reply-To: <20060621181605.37850.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Hi all,
I just registered and first thing to ask is if its correct that the list
archive is broken?
http://lists.brainoff.com/pipermail/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com/ I mean.
It would help me a lot if this is available because I wouldnt want to
bother you with things already asked/resolved.
Well, now I am here anyway... Is there a way of controlling multiple WMS
layers by javascript? I'd like to overlay Demis wms images on the
Onearth layer, but then transparant. Maybe this question has already be
answered on the list, sorry for crossposting then.
Thank you all for a nice work, we plan to use worldkit in Participatory
Environmental mapping systems in central asia.
Riny Heijdendael
Ekois Environmental service for Kyrgyzstan
http://www.ekois.net
From matt at wildcolour.com Wed Jun 21 18:10:08 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:10:08 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first point
in view - Email found in subject
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Hi Mikel
Thanks for looking at this - I was just about to start slicing up all my
walks into very small chunks.
Do you have a copy of this compiled in flash player v.8 - that you could
send me (I need to display those gif/png files - grrr) :)
thanks again
Matt :)
On 6/22/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to
> http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
>
> worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the
> n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which
> works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if
> those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much
> an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt McClelland
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development <
> worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
>
> Hi All
>
> I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
>
> I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in
> sections (ie first half second half)
>
> It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track
> is in the world as defined by etc.
>
> Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with
> accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using
> etc boundries.
>
> (big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
>
> so this works
> http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
>
>
> =
>
> But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of
> the first point) then the line goes by by :(
> http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
>
>
>
> Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in
> view??
>
> Matt :)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 10:00:25 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:00:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first point
in view - Email found in subject
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060622170025.93404.qmail@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I believe the latest/worldkit.swf is compiler for fp v8 .. not so?
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first point in view - Email found in subject
Hi Mikel
Thanks for looking at this - I was just about to start slicing up all my walks into very small chunks.
Do you have a copy of this compiled in flash player v.8 - that you could send me (I need to display those gif/png files - grrr) :)
thanks again
Matt :)
On 6/22/06, Mikel Maron wrote: Hi Matt,
This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland < matt at wildcolour.com>
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
Hi All
I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in sections (ie first half second half)
It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track is in the world as defined by etc.
Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using etc boundries.
(big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
so this works
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc =
But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of the first point) then the line goes by by :(
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in view??
Matt :)
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:01:11 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] New to the list and question
In-Reply-To: <4499BD7C.5080604@heijdendael.nl>
Message-ID: <20060622180111.10688.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Riny, and Welcome!
> I just registered and first thing to ask is if its correct that the list
> archive is broken?
> http://lists.brainoff.com/pipermail/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com/ I mean.
>
> It would help me a lot if this is available because I wouldnt want to
> bother you with things already asked/resolved.
It's working for me now.
> Well, now I am here anyway... Is there a way of controlling multiple WMS
> layers by javascript? I'd like to overlay Demis wms images on the
> Onearth layer, but then transparant. Maybe this question has already be
> answered on the list, sorry for crossposting then.
Yes totally possible. Assign each WMS layer a category attribute. Then you can control the visibility in javascript with "JLayComm"
http://worldkit.org/doc/layers.php#wms
http://worldkit.org/doc/javascript.php#to
> Thank you all for a nice work, we plan to use worldkit in Participatory
> Environmental mapping systems in central asia.
That sounds really interested. Please keep us posted on progress, and feel free to send more queries.
Thanks
Mikel
From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:05:44 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060622180544.72553.qmail@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Matt,
Picking this up again. Yes worldKit needs a reprojected image, as well as the extents of that image. I suspect Google Earth also needs a reprojected image, and is simply using the original .. this may look good enough, though slightly imprecise. The smaller the extent of the image, the less effect the reprojection will actually have. Does this make sense? Sorry, didn't actually get to take a look at the KML, bandwith in my current location is severely limited.
Best
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:32:25 AM
Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
Thanks Mikel
OK my head is about to explode - I have not done this much math since .... well, every really.
I found an article on redearn formula that is used to convert between GDA9A Northing and easting to LAT and LONGS. I then wrote and and PHP file to convert "BBOX=" values to northings and eastings to request the correct file. And it seems to work well. (there is a problem with zooming west of King island - as the server does not seem to allow request outside of zone 55 - so don't go west of king Island.
The script outputs a KML file for google earth to create an overlay - seems to work well. But for this to work with world kit I think I need to pass an image not a xml file with the location of the image. So next step is to pull out the PHP book again and learn how to pass and image file - unless you have a better idea. (I would rather not have to load the image into the server and then send it again - this would be very slow)
The script still have a little bit of tweeking you may notice the top of the map is stretched out a bit.
I have attached the KML file to play with -- remember to zoom right into Tasmania Australia (that is under downunder)
Matt :)
On 6/14/06, Mikel Maron wrote: Hey Matt
GDA94 [Geocentric Datum of Australia 1994 (GDA94)] is a UTM projection .. chosen since it will produce less distorted images over Australia than unprojected lat/long imagery.
I am not aware of an easy way either, but am aware of A way. http://brainoff.com/weblog/2006/06/02/1157 describes a bit of what we did to reproject imagery of Indonesia into unprojected lat/long. It may have enough pointers to get going. You will have to have a "world file" for this image prepared.
Let me know how it goes, we can hash it out.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2006 8:13:53 PM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94 system (as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't understand why there are different systems, but hay.
I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
Here is a url with a sample image
http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
Any ideas???
thanks
Matt :)
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From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] MetaCarta MediaMonitor
Message-ID: <20060622184114.12546.qmail@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
In case folks subscribed to worldkit-dev don't read the worldKit weblog, we recently completed some work with MetaCarta using the worldKit source ..
http://worldkit.org/weblog/archives/2313.php
-Mikel
From matt at wildcolour.com Thu Jun 22 15:55:12 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:55:12 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of
first pointin view - Email found in subject - Email found in subject
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sorry -- I assumed it was v.7 - and you know what happens when one assumes
-- sorry about that
Matt
On 6/23/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> I believe the latest/worldkit.swf is compiler for fp v8 .. not so?
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt McClelland
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development <
> worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first
> point in view - Email found in subject
>
> Hi Mikel
>
> Thanks for looking at this - I was just about to start slicing up all my
> walks into very small chunks.
>
> Do you have a copy of this compiled in flash player v.8 - that you could
> send me (I need to display those gif/png files - grrr) :)
>
> thanks again
>
> Matt :)
>
> On 6/22/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to
> > http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
> >
> > worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the
> > n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which
> > works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if
> > those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much
> > an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
> >
> > Mikel
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Matt McClelland < matt at wildcolour.com>
> > To: Discussion of worldKit use and development > >
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
> > Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
> >
> > I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in
> > sections (ie first half second half)
> >
> > It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the
> > track is in the world as defined by etc.
> >
> > Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with
> > accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using
> > etc boundries.
> >
> > (big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
> >
> > so this works
> > http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
> >
> >
> > =
> >
> > But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of
> > the first point) then the line goes by by :(
> > http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in
> > view??
> >
> > Matt :)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > worldkit-dev mailing list
> > worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> > http://lists.brainoff.com/listinfo.cgi/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: joseph.pecore at L-3Com.com (Pecore, Joseph N (Titan) @ TITAN)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:20:11 -0400
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Saving a map as jpg?
Message-ID:
This might be a flashplayer issue, but is there a way for the user to save the current map as a jpg?
From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 10:13:03 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Saving a map as jpg?
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This is not possible currently in the FlashPlayer. There are Actionscript command to Print however.
----- Original Message ----
From: "Pecore, Joseph N (Titan) @ TITAN"
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:20:11 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Saving a map as jpg?
This might be a flashplayer issue, but is there a way for the user to save the current map as a jpg?
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From marko_f at gmx.de Thu Jun 1 09:00:46 2006
From: marko_f at gmx.de (Marko Faber)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:00:46 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
Message-ID: <20060601160046.319510@gmx.net>
hi,
is it possible to specify a target window in the rss.xml file.
my file looks like:
Marburg
/index.php/regionalgruppen/marburg
Regionalgruppe Marburg
50.81666678.7666667Main
I would prefer the targets to be opened in the window where the map is. so i search for sth. like "target=_self"
thx
marko
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 09:49:52 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
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Message-ID: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Giorgio
Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing is so easy, and RSS generation is built in.
WordPress and the GeoPress plugin [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html] is one nice system.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Giorgio Plazzotta
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
generate and update the RSS files.
At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is the
elements in the map changes very often?
In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
own software to do that?
Giorgio
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From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
In-Reply-To: <20060601160046.319510@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20060601210236.28105.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
You can specify this in the config.xml, with
_self
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Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
hi,
is it possible to specify a target window in the rss.xml file.
my file looks like:
Marburg
/index.php/regionalgruppen/marburg
Regionalgruppe Marburg
50.81666678.7666667Main
I would prefer the targets to be opened in the window where the map is. so i search for sth. like "target=_self"
thx
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From god1 at gmx.net Fri Jun 2 06:14:20 2006
From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:14:20 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
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References: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060602131420.211490@gmx.net>
You could also try the worldkit geowiki from worldkit.org . I'm working on a newer version, you can see the current state at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard (general version) or at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki (some data for Bangalore, combined with pmwiki). There are still some bugs, most importantly it doesn't work with Internet Explorer (with Firefox/Mozilla at least for Ubuntu Linux it works fine). If you have any idea why, or find other problems, please tell me.
If you use any of the geowiki versions to create your data, be aware that there are some constraints when editing rss.xml by hand.
See you,
Markus
>?-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>?Datum: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
>?Von: Mikel Maron
>?An: Discussion of worldKit use and development
>?Betreff: Re: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>?
> Hi Giorgio
>
> Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing
> is so easy, and? RSS generation is built in.
>
> WordPress and the GeoPress plugin
> [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html]
> is one nice system.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Giorgio Plazzotta
> To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>
> I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
> generate and update the RSS files.
> At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
> In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is
> the
> elements in the map changes very often?
> In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
> I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
> Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
> own software to do that?
>
> Giorgio
>
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From god1 at gmx.net Fri Jun 2 06:14:20 2006
From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:14:20 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
In-Reply-To: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060602131420.211490@gmx.net>
You could also try the worldkit geowiki from worldkit.org . I'm working on a newer version, you can see the current state at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard (general version) or at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki (some data for Bangalore, combined with pmwiki). There are still some bugs, most importantly it doesn't work with Internet Explorer (with Firefox/Mozilla at least for Ubuntu Linux it works fine). If you have any idea why, or find other problems, please tell me.
If you use any of the geowiki versions to create your data, be aware that there are some constraints when editing rss.xml by hand.
See you,
Markus
>?-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>?Datum: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
>?Von: Mikel Maron
>?An: Discussion of worldKit use and development
>?Betreff: Re: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>?
> Hi Giorgio
>
> Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing
> is so easy, and? RSS generation is built in.
>
> WordPress and the GeoPress plugin
> [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html]
> is one nice system.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Giorgio Plazzotta
> To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>
> I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
> generate and update the RSS files.
> At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
> In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is
> the
> elements in the map changes very often?
> In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
> I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
> Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
> own software to do that?
>
> Giorgio
>
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From oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com Fri Jun 9 07:30:46 2006
From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:30:46 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Example sites seem to hint at only simple
functionality
Message-ID:
Heya,
Just been having a quick look at Worldkit for use in conjunction with Plone
as Travel Photo blog. I have been checking out the various example sites to
get a handle on the type of functionality that it offers.
It seems from the many examples on the Worldkit website that its not
possible to display the photos on the same page as the map without browser
refresh. Is this really the case?
Can anyone direct me to a website which makes full use of the fetaures
available in Worldkit in particular the use of GIS-like layers?
Thanks again
Olly
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 08:23:09 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:23:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Example sites seem to hint at only simple
functionality
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060609152309.8313.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Oliver
> It seems from the many examples on the Worldkit website that its not
> possible to display the photos on the same page as the map without browser
> refresh. Is this really the case?
Certainly is possible, to display images directly in worldKit..
http://worldkit.org/doc/rss.php#thumb
.. or in DOM elements loaded by Javascript
http://worldkit.org/doc/javascript.php#from
> Can anyone direct me to a website which makes full use of the fetaures
> available in Worldkit in particular the use of GIS-like layers?
Hidden Ecologies is a good example of layers...
http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/database/map/Hidden_Ecologies/herons_head/herons_head_map.asp
http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/database/map/Hidden_Ecologies/south_bay/south_bay_map.asp
Cheers,
Mikel
From matt at wildcolour.com Fri Jun 9 20:13:53 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:13:53 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
Message-ID:
one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94 system
(as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't
understand why there are different systems, but hay.
I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I
am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
Here is a url with a sample image
http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx
maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is
protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
Any ideas???
thanks
Matt :)
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From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:10:54 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
Message-ID:
Hi List,
I am interrested in using the 'timeline' element in my map and have added
the following formatted date to all in rss.xml:
01 May 95
In addition i have added the following to config.xml:
true01 Jun 7801 Jun 06
But there seems to be a problem with my date format! I don't want to include
'the time' but the points don't dsiplay in order of date at the moment. I
have tried using the help at:
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc822.html#sec-5
but i find it very confusing so can anyone help clarify what i need to do
differently?
Thanks in advance
Olly
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From oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com Sat Jun 10 13:04:16 2006
From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:04:16 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Scale dependent layers
Message-ID:
Heya,
Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
..and where possible please provide examples!
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From matt at wildcolour.com Sat Jun 10 14:33:23 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:33:23 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in
subject
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Hi Olly
you can set when a layer becomes visiable in your config file with the
and this works with WMS layers, raster images, and I
assume vectors (I have not tried using vectors).
you will find more detail here
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/config.php#zoom
it is worth spending the time to ready throught he whole documentation,
there are some real gems in this application.
As for and example, there is on in the documentation as well
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/layers.php#layer
happy zooming in
Matt :)
On 6/11/06, Oliver Ishmael wrote:
>
> Heya,
>
> Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
> possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
>
> Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
> visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
>
> ..and where possible please provide examples!
>
>
> Cheers all :D
>
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From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:46:32 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] new version of geowiki
Message-ID: <20060614114632.108730@gmx.net>
Hi,
It seems that the new geowiki is working now on Internet Explorer as well. It allows to add and edit items (points, lines and polygons) directly on the map, track and undo changes in a history, and link the map items either with a normal wiki or with individual urls. Map and linked pages are displayed in the same browser window.
You can see two versions online, the standard one (http://ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard) and one linked to pmwiki (http://ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki). The sources are at http://ctrlw.net/geowiki.tar.gz (@Mikel: can you host it on worldkit.org as well, if you don't mind? Maybe additionally to your older version, since that may still be useful).
Compared to the original geowiki, you cannot display images for individual items on the map, since worldkit does not send this information to the browser, and the map is smaller now to display forms and linked sites on the same page. And the code got larger and more complex ;-)
I'm happy about any feedback, especially from Windows users, since I could hardly test it with IE (it should work as well, but the behaviour is slightly different). See you,
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 06:19:09 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:19:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in
subject
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Message-ID: <20060614131909.74616.qmail@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Yes, check out , it has attributes to control the visibility at different scales. I'm curious to hear how it goes.
mapserver, eh? -- would be interested to pursue tighter integration of worldKit with mapserver..
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Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:33:23 PM
Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in subject
Hi Olly
you can set when a layer becomes visiable in your config file with the and this works with WMS layers, raster images, and I assume vectors (I have not tried using vectors).
you will find more detail here
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/config.php#zoom
it is worth spending the time to ready throught he whole documentation, there are some real gems in this application.
As for and example, there is on in the documentation as well
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/layers.php#layer
happy zooming in
Matt :)
On 6/11/06, Oliver Ishmael wrote: Heya,
Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
..and where possible please provide examples!
Cheers all :D
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From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:23:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
In-Reply-To:
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Hi Olly
Details on the date format supported in worldKit is on http://www.worldkit.org/doc/time.php
These are the formats supported in various RSS flavors.
So yes, at the moment, you do need to include the time. What we need to do is change the format in time display box to be configurable.
Mikel
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From: Oliver Ishmael
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:10:54 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
Hi List,
I am interrested in using the 'timeline' element in my map and have added
the following formatted date to all in rss.xml:
01 May 95
In addition i have added the following to config.xml:
true01 Jun 7801 Jun 06
But there seems to be a problem with my date format! I don't want to include
'the time' but the points don't dsiplay in order of date at the moment. I
have tried using the help at:
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc822.html#sec-5
but i find it very confusing so can anyone help clarify what i need to do
differently?
Thanks in advance
Olly
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 06:43:39 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:43:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
In-Reply-To:
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Hey Matt
GDA94 [Geocentric Datum of Australia 1994 (GDA94)] is a UTM projection .. chosen since it will produce less distorted images over Australia than unprojected lat/long imagery.
I am not aware of an easy way either, but am aware of A way. http://brainoff.com/weblog/2006/06/02/1157 describes a bit of what we did to reproject imagery of Indonesia into unprojected lat/long. It may have enough pointers to get going. You will have to have a "world file" for this image prepared.
Let me know how it goes, we can hash it out.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2006 8:13:53 PM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94 system (as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't understand why there are different systems, but hay.
I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
Here is a url with a sample image
http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
Any ideas???
thanks
Matt :)
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From matt at wildcolour.com Wed Jun 14 21:32:25 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:32:25 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
Message-ID:
Thanks Mikel
OK my head is about to explode - I have not done this much math since ....
well, every really.
I found an article on redearn formula that is used to convert between GDA9A
Northing and easting to LAT and LONGS. I then wrote and and PHP file to
convert "BBOX=" values to northings and eastings to request the correct
file. And it seems to work well. (there is a problem with zooming west of
King island - as the server does not seem to allow request outside of zone
55 - so don't go west of king Island.
The script outputs a KML file for google earth to create an overlay - seems
to work well. But for this to work with world kit I think I need to pass an
image not a xml file with the location of the image. So next step is to
pull out the PHP book again and learn how to pass and image file - unless
you have a better idea. (I would rather not have to load the image into the
server and then send it again - this would be very slow)
The script still have a little bit of tweeking you may notice the top of the
map is stretched out a bit.
I have attached the KML file to play with -- remember to zoom right into
Tasmania Australia (that is under downunder)
Matt :)
On 6/14/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> Hey Matt
>
> GDA94 [Geocentric Datum of Australia 1994 (GDA94)] is a UTM projection
> .. chosen since it will produce less distorted images over Australia than
> unprojected lat/long imagery.
>
> I am not aware of an easy way either, but am aware of A way.
> http://brainoff.com/weblog/2006/06/02/1157 describes a bit of what we did
> to reproject imagery of Indonesia into unprojected lat/long. It may have
> enough pointers to get going. You will have to have a "world file" for this
> image prepared.
>
> Let me know how it goes, we can hash it out.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt McClelland
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2006 8:13:53 PM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
>
> one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94
> system (as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't
> understand why there are different systems, but hay.
>
> I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I
> am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
>
> Here is a url with a sample image
>
>
> http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
>
> you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx
> maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is
> protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
>
> Any ideas???
>
> thanks
>
> Matt :)
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From matt at wildcolour.com Tue Jun 20 00:41:54 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:41:54 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
Message-ID:
Hi All
I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in
sections (ie first half second half)
It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track is
in the world as defined by etc.
Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with
accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using
etc boundries.
(big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
so this works
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
=
But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of the
first point) then the line goes by by :(
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in view??
Matt :)
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 11:16:05 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:16:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060621181605.37850.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Matt,
This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
Hi All
I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in sections (ie first half second half)
It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track is in the world as defined by etc.
Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using etc boundries.
(big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
so this works
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc =
But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of the first point) then the line goes by by :(
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in view??
Matt :)
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From: list at heijdendael.nl ([list] Riny)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:43:24 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] New to the list and question
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Hi all,
I just registered and first thing to ask is if its correct that the list
archive is broken?
http://lists.brainoff.com/pipermail/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com/ I mean.
It would help me a lot if this is available because I wouldnt want to
bother you with things already asked/resolved.
Well, now I am here anyway... Is there a way of controlling multiple WMS
layers by javascript? I'd like to overlay Demis wms images on the
Onearth layer, but then transparant. Maybe this question has already be
answered on the list, sorry for crossposting then.
Thank you all for a nice work, we plan to use worldkit in Participatory
Environmental mapping systems in central asia.
Riny Heijdendael
Ekois Environmental service for Kyrgyzstan
http://www.ekois.net
From matt at wildcolour.com Wed Jun 21 18:10:08 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:10:08 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first point
in view - Email found in subject
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Hi Mikel
Thanks for looking at this - I was just about to start slicing up all my
walks into very small chunks.
Do you have a copy of this compiled in flash player v.8 - that you could
send me (I need to display those gif/png files - grrr) :)
thanks again
Matt :)
On 6/22/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to
> http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
>
> worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the
> n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which
> works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if
> those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much
> an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt McClelland
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development <
> worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
>
> Hi All
>
> I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
>
> I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in
> sections (ie first half second half)
>
> It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track
> is in the world as defined by etc.
>
> Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with
> accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using
> etc boundries.
>
> (big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
>
> so this works
> http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
>
>
> =
>
> But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of
> the first point) then the line goes by by :(
> http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
>
>
>
> Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in
> view??
>
> Matt :)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> worldkit-dev mailing list
> worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> http://lists.brainoff.com/listinfo.cgi/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com
>
>
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 10:00:25 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:00:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first point
in view - Email found in subject
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Message-ID: <20060622170025.93404.qmail@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
I believe the latest/worldkit.swf is compiler for fp v8 .. not so?
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first point in view - Email found in subject
Hi Mikel
Thanks for looking at this - I was just about to start slicing up all my walks into very small chunks.
Do you have a copy of this compiled in flash player v.8 - that you could send me (I need to display those gif/png files - grrr) :)
thanks again
Matt :)
On 6/22/06, Mikel Maron wrote: Hi Matt,
This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland < matt at wildcolour.com>
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
Hi All
I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in sections (ie first half second half)
It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track is in the world as defined by etc.
Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using etc boundries.
(big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
so this works
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc =
But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of the first point) then the line goes by by :(
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in view??
Matt :)
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:01:11 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] New to the list and question
In-Reply-To: <4499BD7C.5080604@heijdendael.nl>
Message-ID: <20060622180111.10688.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Riny, and Welcome!
> I just registered and first thing to ask is if its correct that the list
> archive is broken?
> http://lists.brainoff.com/pipermail/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com/ I mean.
>
> It would help me a lot if this is available because I wouldnt want to
> bother you with things already asked/resolved.
It's working for me now.
> Well, now I am here anyway... Is there a way of controlling multiple WMS
> layers by javascript? I'd like to overlay Demis wms images on the
> Onearth layer, but then transparant. Maybe this question has already be
> answered on the list, sorry for crossposting then.
Yes totally possible. Assign each WMS layer a category attribute. Then you can control the visibility in javascript with "JLayComm"
http://worldkit.org/doc/layers.php#wms
http://worldkit.org/doc/javascript.php#to
> Thank you all for a nice work, we plan to use worldkit in Participatory
> Environmental mapping systems in central asia.
That sounds really interested. Please keep us posted on progress, and feel free to send more queries.
Thanks
Mikel
From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:05:44 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060622180544.72553.qmail@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Matt,
Picking this up again. Yes worldKit needs a reprojected image, as well as the extents of that image. I suspect Google Earth also needs a reprojected image, and is simply using the original .. this may look good enough, though slightly imprecise. The smaller the extent of the image, the less effect the reprojection will actually have. Does this make sense? Sorry, didn't actually get to take a look at the KML, bandwith in my current location is severely limited.
Best
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:32:25 AM
Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
Thanks Mikel
OK my head is about to explode - I have not done this much math since .... well, every really.
I found an article on redearn formula that is used to convert between GDA9A Northing and easting to LAT and LONGS. I then wrote and and PHP file to convert "BBOX=" values to northings and eastings to request the correct file. And it seems to work well. (there is a problem with zooming west of King island - as the server does not seem to allow request outside of zone 55 - so don't go west of king Island.
The script outputs a KML file for google earth to create an overlay - seems to work well. But for this to work with world kit I think I need to pass an image not a xml file with the location of the image. So next step is to pull out the PHP book again and learn how to pass and image file - unless you have a better idea. (I would rather not have to load the image into the server and then send it again - this would be very slow)
The script still have a little bit of tweeking you may notice the top of the map is stretched out a bit.
I have attached the KML file to play with -- remember to zoom right into Tasmania Australia (that is under downunder)
Matt :)
On 6/14/06, Mikel Maron wrote: Hey Matt
GDA94 [Geocentric Datum of Australia 1994 (GDA94)] is a UTM projection .. chosen since it will produce less distorted images over Australia than unprojected lat/long imagery.
I am not aware of an easy way either, but am aware of A way. http://brainoff.com/weblog/2006/06/02/1157 describes a bit of what we did to reproject imagery of Indonesia into unprojected lat/long. It may have enough pointers to get going. You will have to have a "world file" for this image prepared.
Let me know how it goes, we can hash it out.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2006 8:13:53 PM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94 system (as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't understand why there are different systems, but hay.
I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
Here is a url with a sample image
http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
Any ideas???
thanks
Matt :)
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:41:14 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] MetaCarta MediaMonitor
Message-ID: <20060622184114.12546.qmail@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
In case folks subscribed to worldkit-dev don't read the worldKit weblog, we recently completed some work with MetaCarta using the worldKit source ..
http://worldkit.org/weblog/archives/2313.php
-Mikel
From matt at wildcolour.com Thu Jun 22 15:55:12 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:55:12 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of
first pointin view - Email found in subject - Email found in subject
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sorry -- I assumed it was v.7 - and you know what happens when one assumes
-- sorry about that
Matt
On 6/23/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> I believe the latest/worldkit.swf is compiler for fp v8 .. not so?
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt McClelland
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development <
> worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first
> point in view - Email found in subject
>
> Hi Mikel
>
> Thanks for looking at this - I was just about to start slicing up all my
> walks into very small chunks.
>
> Do you have a copy of this compiled in flash player v.8 - that you could
> send me (I need to display those gif/png files - grrr) :)
>
> thanks again
>
> Matt :)
>
> On 6/22/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to
> > http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
> >
> > worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the
> > n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which
> > works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if
> > those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much
> > an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
> >
> > Mikel
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Matt McClelland < matt at wildcolour.com>
> > To: Discussion of worldKit use and development > >
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
> > Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
> >
> > I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in
> > sections (ie first half second half)
> >
> > It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the
> > track is in the world as defined by etc.
> >
> > Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with
> > accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using
> > etc boundries.
> >
> > (big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
> >
> > so this works
> > http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
> >
> >
> > =
> >
> > But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of
> > the first point) then the line goes by by :(
> > http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in
> > view??
> >
> > Matt :)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > worldkit-dev mailing list
> > worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> > http://lists.brainoff.com/listinfo.cgi/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
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> >
> >
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From: joseph.pecore at L-3Com.com (Pecore, Joseph N (Titan) @ TITAN)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:20:11 -0400
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Saving a map as jpg?
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This might be a flashplayer issue, but is there a way for the user to save the current map as a jpg?
From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 10:13:03 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Saving a map as jpg?
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This is not possible currently in the FlashPlayer. There are Actionscript command to Print however.
----- Original Message ----
From: "Pecore, Joseph N (Titan) @ TITAN"
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:20:11 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Saving a map as jpg?
This might be a flashplayer issue, but is there a way for the user to save the current map as a jpg?
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From marko_f at gmx.de Thu Jun 1 09:00:46 2006
From: marko_f at gmx.de (Marko Faber)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:00:46 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
Message-ID: <20060601160046.319510@gmx.net>
hi,
is it possible to specify a target window in the rss.xml file.
my file looks like:
Marburg
/index.php/regionalgruppen/marburg
Regionalgruppe Marburg
50.81666678.7666667Main
I would prefer the targets to be opened in the window where the map is. so i search for sth. like "target=_self"
thx
marko
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 09:49:52 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
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Message-ID: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Giorgio
Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing is so easy, and RSS generation is built in.
WordPress and the GeoPress plugin [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html] is one nice system.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Giorgio Plazzotta
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
generate and update the RSS files.
At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is the
elements in the map changes very often?
In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
own software to do that?
Giorgio
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 14:02:36 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
In-Reply-To: <20060601160046.319510@gmx.net>
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You can specify this in the config.xml, with
_self
-Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Marko Faber
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2006 9:00:46 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] target
hi,
is it possible to specify a target window in the rss.xml file.
my file looks like:
Marburg
/index.php/regionalgruppen/marburg
Regionalgruppe Marburg
50.81666678.7666667Main
I would prefer the targets to be opened in the window where the map is. so i search for sth. like "target=_self"
thx
marko
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From god1 at gmx.net Fri Jun 2 06:14:20 2006
From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:14:20 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
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You could also try the worldkit geowiki from worldkit.org . I'm working on a newer version, you can see the current state at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard (general version) or at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki (some data for Bangalore, combined with pmwiki). There are still some bugs, most importantly it doesn't work with Internet Explorer (with Firefox/Mozilla at least for Ubuntu Linux it works fine). If you have any idea why, or find other problems, please tell me.
If you use any of the geowiki versions to create your data, be aware that there are some constraints when editing rss.xml by hand.
See you,
Markus
>?-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>?Datum: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
>?Von: Mikel Maron
>?An: Discussion of worldKit use and development
>?Betreff: Re: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>?
> Hi Giorgio
>
> Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing
> is so easy, and? RSS generation is built in.
>
> WordPress and the GeoPress plugin
> [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html]
> is one nice system.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Giorgio Plazzotta
> To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>
> I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
> generate and update the RSS files.
> At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
> In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is
> the
> elements in the map changes very often?
> In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
> I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
> Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
> own software to do that?
>
> Giorgio
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From god1 at gmx.net Fri Jun 2 06:14:20 2006
From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:14:20 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
In-Reply-To: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060601164952.12258.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060602131420.211490@gmx.net>
You could also try the worldkit geowiki from worldkit.org . I'm working on a newer version, you can see the current state at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard (general version) or at www.ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki (some data for Bangalore, combined with pmwiki). There are still some bugs, most importantly it doesn't work with Internet Explorer (with Firefox/Mozilla at least for Ubuntu Linux it works fine). If you have any idea why, or find other problems, please tell me.
If you use any of the geowiki versions to create your data, be aware that there are some constraints when editing rss.xml by hand.
See you,
Markus
>?-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>?Datum: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
>?Von: Mikel Maron
>?An: Discussion of worldKit use and development
>?Betreff: Re: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>?
> Hi Giorgio
>
> Weblog publishing is a pretty good way to manage points, since publishing
> is so easy, and? RSS generation is built in.
>
> WordPress and the GeoPress plugin
> [http://www.dronamraju.com/blog/2005/11/geopress-wordpress-plugin-for-tagging-your-posts-with-location-info.html]
> is one nice system.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Giorgio Plazzotta
> To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:28:27 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] systems to manage RSS files
>
> I wonder is there are solutions that can help the worldkit manager to
> generate and update the RSS files.
> At the moment the option is to manahe the ascii RSS file with an editor.
> In many applications this is probably the quickiest solution but what is
> the
> elements in the map changes very often?
> In this case users will need a software tool to generate them.
> I wonder how the other worldkit users solved this part of their projects.
> Did u find other solutions in the open source words or did u develop your
> own software to do that?
>
> Giorgio
>
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From oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com Fri Jun 9 07:30:46 2006
From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:30:46 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Example sites seem to hint at only simple
functionality
Message-ID:
Heya,
Just been having a quick look at Worldkit for use in conjunction with Plone
as Travel Photo blog. I have been checking out the various example sites to
get a handle on the type of functionality that it offers.
It seems from the many examples on the Worldkit website that its not
possible to display the photos on the same page as the map without browser
refresh. Is this really the case?
Can anyone direct me to a website which makes full use of the fetaures
available in Worldkit in particular the use of GIS-like layers?
Thanks again
Olly
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 08:23:09 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:23:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Example sites seem to hint at only simple
functionality
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060609152309.8313.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Oliver
> It seems from the many examples on the Worldkit website that its not
> possible to display the photos on the same page as the map without browser
> refresh. Is this really the case?
Certainly is possible, to display images directly in worldKit..
http://worldkit.org/doc/rss.php#thumb
.. or in DOM elements loaded by Javascript
http://worldkit.org/doc/javascript.php#from
> Can anyone direct me to a website which makes full use of the fetaures
> available in Worldkit in particular the use of GIS-like layers?
Hidden Ecologies is a good example of layers...
http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/database/map/Hidden_Ecologies/herons_head/herons_head_map.asp
http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/database/map/Hidden_Ecologies/south_bay/south_bay_map.asp
Cheers,
Mikel
From matt at wildcolour.com Fri Jun 9 20:13:53 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:13:53 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
Message-ID:
one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94 system
(as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't
understand why there are different systems, but hay.
I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I
am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
Here is a url with a sample image
http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx
maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is
protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
Any ideas???
thanks
Matt :)
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From oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com Sat Jun 10 07:10:54 2006
From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:10:54 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
Message-ID:
Hi List,
I am interrested in using the 'timeline' element in my map and have added
the following formatted date to all in rss.xml:
01 May 95
In addition i have added the following to config.xml:
true01 Jun 7801 Jun 06
But there seems to be a problem with my date format! I don't want to include
'the time' but the points don't dsiplay in order of date at the moment. I
have tried using the help at:
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc822.html#sec-5
but i find it very confusing so can anyone help clarify what i need to do
differently?
Thanks in advance
Olly
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From oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com Sat Jun 10 13:04:16 2006
From: oliver_ishmael at hotmail.com (Oliver Ishmael)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:04:16 +0100
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Scale dependent layers
Message-ID:
Heya,
Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
..and where possible please provide examples!
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From matt at wildcolour.com Sat Jun 10 14:33:23 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:33:23 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in
subject
In-Reply-To:
References:
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Hi Olly
you can set when a layer becomes visiable in your config file with the
and this works with WMS layers, raster images, and I
assume vectors (I have not tried using vectors).
you will find more detail here
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/config.php#zoom
it is worth spending the time to ready throught he whole documentation,
there are some real gems in this application.
As for and example, there is on in the documentation as well
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/layers.php#layer
happy zooming in
Matt :)
On 6/11/06, Oliver Ishmael wrote:
>
> Heya,
>
> Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
> possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
>
> Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
> visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
>
> ..and where possible please provide examples!
>
>
> Cheers all :D
>
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From god1 at gmx.net Wed Jun 14 04:46:32 2006
From: god1 at gmx.net (Markus Graeser)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:46:32 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] new version of geowiki
Message-ID: <20060614114632.108730@gmx.net>
Hi,
It seems that the new geowiki is working now on Internet Explorer as well. It allows to add and edit items (points, lines and polygons) directly on the map, track and undo changes in a history, and link the map items either with a normal wiki or with individual urls. Map and linked pages are displayed in the same browser window.
You can see two versions online, the standard one (http://ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki/standard) and one linked to pmwiki (http://ctrlw.net/geo/geowiki). The sources are at http://ctrlw.net/geowiki.tar.gz (@Mikel: can you host it on worldkit.org as well, if you don't mind? Maybe additionally to your older version, since that may still be useful).
Compared to the original geowiki, you cannot display images for individual items on the map, since worldkit does not send this information to the browser, and the map is smaller now to display forms and linked sites on the same page. And the code got larger and more complex ;-)
I'm happy about any feedback, especially from Windows users, since I could hardly test it with IE (it should work as well, but the behaviour is slightly different). See you,
Markus
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 06:19:09 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:19:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in
subject
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Yes, check out , it has attributes to control the visibility at different scales. I'm curious to hear how it goes.
mapserver, eh? -- would be interested to pursue tighter integration of worldKit with mapserver..
----- Original Message ----
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To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:33:23 PM
Subject: Re: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Scale dependent layers - Email found in subject
Hi Olly
you can set when a layer becomes visiable in your config file with the and this works with WMS layers, raster images, and I assume vectors (I have not tried using vectors).
you will find more detail here
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/config.php#zoom
it is worth spending the time to ready throught he whole documentation, there are some real gems in this application.
As for and example, there is on in the documentation as well
http://www.worldkit.org/doc/layers.php#layer
happy zooming in
Matt :)
On 6/11/06, Oliver Ishmael wrote: Heya,
Coming from a Mapserver background it would be really useful if it were
possible to integrate scale-dependent layers to the map.
Is it possible to have additional vector or raster layers only become
visible once a user zooms in...say on a town or city for example?
..and where possible please provide examples!
Cheers all :D
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 06:23:27 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:23:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
In-Reply-To:
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Hi Olly
Details on the date format supported in worldKit is on http://www.worldkit.org/doc/time.php
These are the formats supported in various RSS flavors.
So yes, at the moment, you do need to include the time. What we need to do is change the format in time display box to be configurable.
Mikel
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From: Oliver Ishmael
To: worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:10:54 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Date format issues
Hi List,
I am interrested in using the 'timeline' element in my map and have added
the following formatted date to all in rss.xml:
01 May 95
In addition i have added the following to config.xml:
true01 Jun 7801 Jun 06
But there seems to be a problem with my date format! I don't want to include
'the time' but the points don't dsiplay in order of date at the moment. I
have tried using the help at:
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc822.html#sec-5
but i find it very confusing so can anyone help clarify what i need to do
differently?
Thanks in advance
Olly
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 06:43:39 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:43:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
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Hey Matt
GDA94 [Geocentric Datum of Australia 1994 (GDA94)] is a UTM projection .. chosen since it will produce less distorted images over Australia than unprojected lat/long imagery.
I am not aware of an easy way either, but am aware of A way. http://brainoff.com/weblog/2006/06/02/1157 describes a bit of what we did to reproject imagery of Indonesia into unprojected lat/long. It may have enough pointers to get going. You will have to have a "world file" for this image prepared.
Let me know how it goes, we can hash it out.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2006 8:13:53 PM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94 system (as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't understand why there are different systems, but hay.
I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
Here is a url with a sample image
http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
Any ideas???
thanks
Matt :)
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From matt at wildcolour.com Wed Jun 14 21:32:25 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:32:25 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
Message-ID:
Thanks Mikel
OK my head is about to explode - I have not done this much math since ....
well, every really.
I found an article on redearn formula that is used to convert between GDA9A
Northing and easting to LAT and LONGS. I then wrote and and PHP file to
convert "BBOX=" values to northings and eastings to request the correct
file. And it seems to work well. (there is a problem with zooming west of
King island - as the server does not seem to allow request outside of zone
55 - so don't go west of king Island.
The script outputs a KML file for google earth to create an overlay - seems
to work well. But for this to work with world kit I think I need to pass an
image not a xml file with the location of the image. So next step is to
pull out the PHP book again and learn how to pass and image file - unless
you have a better idea. (I would rather not have to load the image into the
server and then send it again - this would be very slow)
The script still have a little bit of tweeking you may notice the top of the
map is stretched out a bit.
I have attached the KML file to play with -- remember to zoom right into
Tasmania Australia (that is under downunder)
Matt :)
On 6/14/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> Hey Matt
>
> GDA94 [Geocentric Datum of Australia 1994 (GDA94)] is a UTM projection
> .. chosen since it will produce less distorted images over Australia than
> unprojected lat/long imagery.
>
> I am not aware of an easy way either, but am aware of A way.
> http://brainoff.com/weblog/2006/06/02/1157 describes a bit of what we did
> to reproject imagery of Indonesia into unprojected lat/long. It may have
> enough pointers to get going. You will have to have a "world file" for this
> image prepared.
>
> Let me know how it goes, we can hash it out.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt McClelland
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2006 8:13:53 PM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] use of GDA94 in world kit
>
> one data source that I am wanting to use with worldkit is in a GDA94
> system (as apposed to normal lat and longs used in worldkit) I really don't
> understand why there are different systems, but hay.
>
> I am not aware of any easy way to convert between GDA94 and lat long, so I
> am a bit stuck in how to intergrate this into world kit.
>
> Here is a url with a sample image
>
>
> http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/servlet/listmapGetMap?minx=440000&miny=5371500&maxx=446000&maxy=5376000&iwidth=1600&iheight=1600&layers=26,194,22,19,18,2,197,196,39,40,198,27,28,195,20,202,10,25&imageno=41&grid=true
>
> you can see the easting and northing figures in the minx miny (and maxx
> maxy) (this map source is for the state of tasmania in Australia and is
> protected under copyright, ra ra ra)
>
> Any ideas???
>
> thanks
>
> Matt :)
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From matt at wildcolour.com Tue Jun 20 00:41:54 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:41:54 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
Message-ID:
Hi All
I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in
sections (ie first half second half)
It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track is
in the world as defined by etc.
Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with
accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using
etc boundries.
(big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
so this works
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
=
But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of the
first point) then the line goes by by :(
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in view??
Matt :)
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From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 11:16:05 2006
From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:16:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20060621181605.37850.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hi Matt,
This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
Mikel
----- Original Message ----
From: Matt McClelland
To: Discussion of worldKit use and development
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
Hi All
I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in sections (ie first half second half)
It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track is in the world as defined by etc.
Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using etc boundries.
(big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
so this works
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc =
But if I bring the eastern boundry in just a touch (to the west side of the first point) then the line goes by by :(
http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1922852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
Any ideas on how to be able to show the line if any part of it is in view??
Matt :)
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From list at heijdendael.nl Wed Jun 21 14:43:24 2006
From: list at heijdendael.nl ([list] Riny)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:43:24 +0200
Subject: [worldKit-dev] New to the list and question
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Hi all,
I just registered and first thing to ask is if its correct that the list
archive is broken?
http://lists.brainoff.com/pipermail/worldkit-dev-brainoff.com/ I mean.
It would help me a lot if this is available because I wouldnt want to
bother you with things already asked/resolved.
Well, now I am here anyway... Is there a way of controlling multiple WMS
layers by javascript? I'd like to overlay Demis wms images on the
Onearth layer, but then transparant. Maybe this question has already be
answered on the list, sorry for crossposting then.
Thank you all for a nice work, we plan to use worldkit in Participatory
Environmental mapping systems in central asia.
Riny Heijdendael
Ekois Environmental service for Kyrgyzstan
http://www.ekois.net
From matt at wildcolour.com Wed Jun 21 18:10:08 2006
From: matt at wildcolour.com (Matt McClelland)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:10:08 +1000
Subject: [worldKit-dev] [SPAM] - Re: Path only displayed of first point
in view - Email found in subject
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Hi Mikel
Thanks for looking at this - I was just about to start slicing up all my
walks into very small chunks.
Do you have a copy of this compiled in flash player v.8 - that you could
send me (I need to display those gif/png files - grrr) :)
thanks again
Matt :)
On 6/22/06, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> This is a bug, fixed in the latest build just posted to
> http://worldkit.org/download/latest/worldkit.swf
>
> worldKit was only drawing lines where the first point fell with the
> n/s/e/w map boundary. For the moment, it's not testing lines at all, which
> works perfectly well.But it will potentially create unnecessary lines if
> those lines lie completely outside the map extents .. but that's very much
> an ignorable, unharmful edge case.
>
> Mikel
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt McClelland
> To: Discussion of worldKit use and development <
> worldkit-dev at lists.brainoff.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:41:54 AM
> Subject: [worldKit-dev] Path only displayed of first point in view
>
> Hi All
>
> I am wondering if this is a bug, as designed or me been stupid.
>
> I have a path that describes a bushwalk. I want to show that walk in
> sections (ie first half second half)
>
> It seems that the track is only displayed if the first point of the track
> is in the world as defined by etc.
>
> Since geo:line does not seem to work in WMS mode - due to a problem with
> accuplot, I have loaded an image and defined it as the whole world using
> etc boundries.
>
> (big fat ugly black line is defined by geo:line in the rss-tes.xml file)
>
> so this works
> http://www.wildwalks.com/maps/nswsecmap.php?minlong=151.1719726&minlat=-33.5923571&maxlong=151.1932852&maxlat=-33.5891496&title=Bridge%20to%20Point%20(end)%20&desc
>
>